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This Naked Mind Podcast

EP 165: Naked Life Story: Jacqueline

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In today’s podcast, Annie introduces Jacqueline from the Netherlands, where drinking is part of the culture, as it is in many parts of the world. But something was different for Jacqueline. When her husband had a heart attack at age 41, she decided she could no longer continue this way. Excluded, lonely, and judged…..it wasn’t always easy to stay the course. Don’t miss Jacqueline’s story that we can all relate to in one way or another.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without

0:15.2

judgment, pain, or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.

0:28.9

Hi, this is Annie Grace and welcome to this naked mind podcast. And today I'm really

0:33.1

excited because I am here with Jacqueline and she is a published author in the Netherlands who's

0:38.2

written this amazing book and Jacqueline. I am not going to be able to pronounce the title so.

0:43.6

Well, say to Dutch first, it's old Vainen, which could be if you do it literally, it would be

0:50.1

D wine or unwined, but then with an E in, so there would be a pun. So in the middle of the glass,

0:59.3

it says really happy alcohol free. Oh, that's so cool. That's really neat how you have that

1:06.3

pun of unwined, but unwined. I love that. That's awesome. So what I'd love to do is kind of just

1:13.6

start with your story. So I don't know if you can back us up and just kind of talk through sort

1:18.5

of where it all began for you. Where it all began. Well, I have this funny story that on my first

1:24.8

birthday, which is December 75, my mother still tells me that my grandfather used to give me little

1:34.1

sips of his beer. And I could just barely walk and I was walking around the table and at my hands

1:40.0

on the table. And then everybody thought it was so funny in the 70s that I kept on tripping over.

1:46.8

Terrible. So that's where it started. Wow. Is that common? Was your grandfather kind of breaking the rules?

1:53.1

It's so ridiculous that everybody was still telling the story years later. But you know, in

1:59.0

mid 70s, everybody was smoking inside and then it was all funny. And no, no, it wasn't common to

2:04.4

give to the alcohol, but it's just, you know, it's funny when people ask me, where did it start? I

2:08.7

always tell that story. Yeah. It started as, well, basically everybody, all my friends and I did

2:15.1

when we were going out at like 1670 and just trying things. And I remember when I first had my

2:22.0

first sip of beer that I just loved that feeling. I loved the feeling. It wasn't that I immediately

2:28.7

was hooked and I wanted more and more and more, but I just so remember that warm fuzzy feeling that

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