Ep. 16: Neither Trump
The Re-Education with Eli Lake
Nebulous Media
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 14 June 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
When you can't support a demagogue who won’t accept the results of elections he loses, but you also can’t support a resistance that claims to be restoring our political norms by violating them, you have few places to turn. This week on The Re-Education, Eli is joined by Mary Katharine Ham to discuss where Americans should turn when they feel stuck in the middle.
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0:04 - Intro
0:23 - Monologue
16:49 - Interview with Mary Katharine Ham
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| 0:00.0 | This is Eli Lake, and you're listening to the re-education. |
| 0:05.0 | My guest today is Mary Catherine Hamm, a CNN contributor, |
| 0:08.3 | and the host of Nebulus's Getting Hammered podcast. |
| 0:11.9 | Our topic today is the January 6th Committee. |
| 0:24.5 | Have you been following the January 6th committee? |
| 0:32.7 | One of the weirder storylines has revolved around how and who will be broadcasting its slate of hearings. |
| 0:36.6 | The committee hired the former president of ABC News, William Goldston, to help produce TV segments |
| 0:38.5 | from the body cam, surveillance camera, and documentary footage from that day. |
| 0:43.1 | It's a strange focus because the conceit of such a select committee in Congress is that |
| 0:47.8 | it uncovers new facts that inform a narrative. |
| 0:51.3 | In this case, most of us know the basics. |
| 0:53.8 | And yet, the narrative, and in particular who accepts the narrative. In this case, most of us know the basics, and yet the narrative, and in |
| 0:56.2 | particular, who accepts the narrative, has become a focus of our current partisan debate. So the |
| 1:04.2 | committee took the unprecedented step of airing its first hearing last week in prime time and getting |
| 1:10.3 | all the major networks to air it without |
| 1:12.9 | commercials. Well, all the major networks except for one. Fox News. Last night, more than 19 million |
| 1:20.2 | people watched the January 6th committee's first public hearing. All of the major news networks |
| 1:24.6 | aired it except for one. Of course, the odd one out, as you can see there in the center, is Fox News. |
| 1:30.6 | Earlier this week, the network announced they would not be carrying the hearing live, |
| 1:34.1 | and frankly, the reason is obvious. |
| 1:36.2 | The truth of what happened on January 6th that a mob, |
| 1:39.5 | egged on by Donald Trump violently tried to overturn an election, |
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