Welcome modern war listeners. I'm Captain Jake Morality.

Today on the podcast we'll be interviewing Major General Tired Robert Scales,

former commandant of the U.S. Army War College and author of Scales on War.

We'll talk to him about the concept of tactical overmatch and how to improve our infantry soldiers and formations for future conflict.

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So, General Scales, welcome to the podcast.

I appreciate you taking the time to come out and talk to us.

Thanks, Jake. Glad to be here.

I wanted to lead off with a little bit kind of general overview of what you talk about in your book.

Your book focuses a lot on the experience of the infantry and then how to approve their effectiveness on the battlefield.

And I'm curious as what you see as being unique to the infantry experience,

and then what we need to do to improve that experience,

whether it's technologically or training-wise or whatever else needs to happen.

Yeah, well, the Army in many ways is like any other bureaucratic institution.

And the vast majority of the jobs that most soldiers perform are no different than the jobs that an employee in a large company would do.

I mean, the Army has bakers and drivers and mechanics and medics and and

IT technicians and so forth. The one thing that sets the Army apart not only from any other

service, but the rest of society is there's a small percentage of the army, about 15%, whose sole purpose

is to go out every day and kill or be killed, as the saying goes, to close with and destroy the

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