This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without

judgment, pain or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.

Hi, this is Annie Grace and welcome to this naked mind podcast. Today I have a really exciting story

and lots of lots of fun stuff to discuss with my guest today, Trisha Lewis. Welcome, Trisha. How are you?

Hi, hello, Annie Grace. I'm good. How are you?

Really good. It's a good, beautiful sunny day. Let's go. I can't complain.

That makes one of us. Oh no.

That's no worries. Yeah, I just got back from Tennessee and we had like six days of rain.

I just did too. Oh, okay. I wonder if we're at the same conference.

No, I totally would have seen you there.

But yes, you know, the rain, the floods, it was, it was a really crazy. Yeah, yeah, really crazy.

So now I'm like, oh, we're so spoiled in Colorado with our 300 sunny days. But awesome. Well,

let's dive into it. And for like, I always start like just walk us back all the way to the

beginning in your story. Like, where did it all start for you and you know what happened?

Yeah. So I'm just your typical garden variety, high functioning,

codependent perfectionist over achieving alcoholic.

And, you know, I think the two biggest defining factors that made it so difficult for me to come

to terms with having a problem was that I grew up around somebody who was the very definition

of a low functioning addict and alcoholic. And I spent 20 years in the restaurant industry,

which is also a very skewed, you know, look at what is normal drinking, you know, when you're

around people that drink so much, it's hard to diagnose what your own problem should look like.

So, yeah, growing up around, you know, I had a sibling who was a very, very active alcoholic

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