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These Are The Days

Ep 154: Revisiting the Enneagram (Part 1) with Suzanne Stabile

These Are The Days

Jeremy + Auredy Roloff

Religion & Spirituality, Kids & Family

4.86.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

You guys LOVED our last episode with Suzanne Stabile so we are bringing her back for a deeper conversation around the Enneagram – AND she will be back next week for a Part 2 🥳

 

Suzanne is an author, teacher, and one of the most trusted voices on the Enneagram. In this conversation we are going to unpack how this tool helps us grow in self-awareness, deepen our relationships, and walk with more grace in our spiritual lives. We also talk about the beauty and complexity of being human—and how the Enneagram can be a lens for transformation, especially in the context of faith. 🤲

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0:00.0

Welcome to these are the days podcast. We have a really exciting conversation today. I know I

0:08.2

always say that, but this one in particular, extremely useful, very fun. We found it very exciting.

0:14.8

We have Suzanne Stabil back on the podcast. If you remember, we interviewed her maybe three, four, maybe five years ago now.

0:24.2

Suzanne Sable is an internationally renowned Enneagram Master Teacher, Speaker, an author of best-selling

0:30.7

books like The Road Back to You and The Path Between Us. We've discussed those books a lot on

0:36.1

previous versions of this podcast as they've been extremely helpful in Audrey's in my marriage.

0:43.1

They've just allowed me to understand myself in relationship to Audrey, me to understand why Audrey thinks the way she does and why she responds or acts certain ways to me.

0:54.1

It's helped us immeasurably.

0:56.2

It's probably been the most useful to what these books that Suzanne has written kind of

1:00.5

helps us, has helped us understand has been one of the most influential things in our marriage.

1:05.2

I will, I'll just leave it at that. She's host of the Intergram Journey podcast and co-founder of Life in the Trinity Ministry.

1:13.0

She brings decades of wisdom, humor, and insight to understand themselves and others through

1:18.3

the Enigram.

1:19.6

And as you'll obviously conclude from our chats here, this will be part one and a part two

1:24.4

with Suzanne, that the goal in knowing yourself and by extension,

1:28.3

others is obviously to know God. Like, that's the goal. And the intigram is a tool in which

1:34.8

we can get our minds to understand ourselves. Like, who are we? Who are they? Like, what kind

1:40.9

of makes us tick as humans? Why are people different? How do we communicate?

1:44.6

And why do we think about the world in different ways? And what does that look like? In relationship

1:50.1

to God. So it's a really interesting conversation. Stick around, grab a pen. This will be part

1:56.8

one because we had so much fun talking with Suzanne. She's so full of wisdom. And if you

2:01.8

noticed, we just kind of, we just are trying to shut up and extract what we can from her while

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