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History of the Germans from the Middle Ages to Reunification

Ep. 151: Ludwig the Bavarian (1314-1347) - The Kurverein zu Rhens

History of the Germans from the Middle Ages to Reunification

Dirk Hoffmann-Becking

Education, Society & Culture, History

4.9550 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

This week we look at the central intellectual debate of the 14th century, did Jesus own property? If yes, then it was right and proper that the church owned land, privileges, entire counties and duchies, yes that the pope was not just the spiritual but also the secular ruler of all of Christianity. And if not, then the pope as a successor to the apostles should rescind all worldly possessions and all political power. The follow-on question from there was even more hair raising: if indeed power does not come from the grace of god as determined by the Holy church, then where does it come from. One thinker, Marsilius of Padua goes as far as stating the obvious, power comes from election by the people…

This is what pope John XXII, Michael of Cesena, William of Ockham and the cast of Umberto Eco’s the Name of the Rose discuss. But there was also a politician, Ludwig IV, elected emperor who took these ideas – and put them into actions….let’s find out just how radical this ruler they call “the Bavarian” really was.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the history of the Germans, episode 151, the Kurfein-Zur-Verens,

0:10.9

featuring William of Ockham.

0:13.0

Also, episode 14 of season 8, from the Interregnum to the Golden Bull, 1250 to 1356.

0:20.5

This week we look at the central intellectual debate of the 14th century, which was 1250 to 1356.

0:21.0

This week we look at the central intellectual debate of the 14th century, which was,

0:25.7

Did Jesus own property?

0:28.6

Because if yes, then it was right and proper that the church owned land, privileges, entire

0:33.3

counties and duchies, yes, that the Pope was not just the spiritual, but also the secular

0:38.9

ruler of all of Christianity.

0:41.9

And if not, then the Pope as a successor to the Apostles should rescind all worldly possessions

0:47.6

and all political power.

0:50.5

The follow-on question from there was even more hair-raising.

0:59.5

If indeed power does not come from the grace of God as determined by the Holy Church,

1:02.0

then where does it come from?

1:07.3

One thinker, Marseileus of Padua, goes as far as stating the obvious.

1:13.2

Power comes from the election by the people. This is what Pope John the 22nd, Michael of Chisena, William of Ockham, and the cast of

1:18.4

Umberto Ecos the name of the Rose discuss. But there was also a politician, Ludwig

1:24.7

the 4th, elected emperor, who took these ideas and put them into actions.

1:30.5

Let's find out just how radical this ruler they call the Bavarian really was.

1:37.9

But before we start, let me remind you that the history of the Germans is advertising free,

1:42.5

and with good reason.

1:48.3

Regular reminders to use online mental health services or invest in cryptocurrencies is the number one irritation for most listeners and causes moral dilemmas for many

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