Hello and welcome to the Adam Ruins Everything podcast. It's the

podcast version of Adam Ruins Everything the TV show. I'm your host Adam

Conover and I'm also the host of Adam Ruins Everything, the TV show on True TV, which you can see.

Oh, and by the way, we're back now, new episodes every Tuesday night on True TV.

And you can find clips and full episodes at true TV.com

slash Adam Ruins Everything and the watch true TV app.

Okay, so let me explain the show really quick.

If you guys have been listening for a while, you've heard this already,

but hey, we've probably got some new listeners who

decided to tap on this episode first on their

podcast app so let me just break it down real quick on the TV show I talked to

experts from all over the world of academia journalists cool smart people like

that incredible fascinating people but we talk to them for just like 90 seconds.

Here on the podcast, we bring them into the studio, or we talk to them remotely from a studio far away for longer,

for 45 minutes or an hour or so. We get to really get into what makes

their work so cool and break apart those issues in a longer format. So today's

guest is Ethan Zuckerberg. We talked to him on Adam Ruins the Internet, and in that

episode we talked about how when we use supposedly free services like Facebook and Google,

we're not really the users of those services at all, we're really the product that they're selling to advertisers

and we talk about the incredibly negative effect that this has on the internet in

general and on this podcast we're going to talk about that at much greater length

Ethan is such a fascinating guy. He's the

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