Hello relatable listeners. Help everyone has had a wonderful week. Today I am joined by Gabe

Rinch, my friend from the show Cross Politics. He is going to give us some insight into how

Christians should approach civic issues and the role of the government and the role of Christians

in government and how we kind of approach all the craziness that's going on in the so-called

secular world. Gabe, thanks so much for joining me. Yeah, thank you for having me.

So first, please introduce yourself. Just tell everyone who you are, what you do, tell them about

your show. Yeah, so on the host, one of the hosts of Cross Politics Show and Podcast, we're on

Jack TV on Friday nights and of course podcast, social media, all that stuff too. We are just a

Jesus's Lord show over everything. So we've actually had, you know, we've interviewed Ted Cruz,

Ben Carson, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, you've had Matt Walshron. We also will have pastors on the show,

we'll have politicians on the show. We did a live show with all our governors and Idaho,

our candidates running for governor and Idaho this. So we want to address every topic. And so

on the host of that show, I also serve as a Dean of my church and an entrepreneur and so that's

where I go. Yeah, I'm curious as to what, well, I think I know, but maybe my audience might not know

what got you started in this. Why did you guys decide, okay, we need a Christian-centered

show that talked about not just Christian stuff, even though everything is, I guess, technically

Christian or theological in some way. How did you decide that you were going to talk about the

span of everything from a biblical perspective? Yeah, so I had many, I've had ministry desires,

you know, as long as I can remember. And when I had opportunity, I left my company in 2016 and I

served as a Dean, I served in my Dean of my church and I kind of looked around and I said,

you know, what, what is my church not doing that? Maybe I have a gift at. Yeah. And so

that's how I started thinking about radio and podcast, I'll like that. And then I knew I wasn't

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