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Welcome to Channel 33.

Today, we're going to talk about digital music and the music and internet and just kind of the way people have tried to make this thing work and how confusing it can be.

We're talking to Billy Chasen who created TurnTable.fm, maybe the most fun social music app that unfortunately is not around anymore,

as well as Scott Pink Mountain who works at Pandora as a music analyst, and then also Tanner Melee, who created an app called Vivo Gig,

which was going to try and be the Instagram for concerts.

It did not work out, but he learned a lot of really interesting things about the music and internet industry and how it's all a really difficult landscape to navigate.

But first, we're going to talk to Victor Lukersen who works at The Ringer. He's a staff writer here.

Okay, cool, Victor. Thanks for joining me today. How are you?

I'm great, Molly. How are you doing?

I'm good. I was just reading this article a few weeks ago, but it's really relevant to a lot of things we're talking about today.

It was about how Spotify had to, since they couldn't get all these big names, they tried to win within algorithm.

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