And he said, what an apt metaphor for our culture, where the metaphorically speaking,

we've gutted the maternity ward and put up a condo.

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What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood. I love to read The Atlantic. Hopefully you do too, if you're a nerd who likes to just read random long articles that take like an hour to read, which is really, which is like 10 hours in internet time. And one of my favorite journalists, authors to read is Derek Thompson. He writes for The Atlantic. He also has a podcast and he's written a couple books. I think Hitmakers is one of his main ones. Super good, super fun, fascinating book. But he just wrote an article a little bit ago that we posted in our Five Minute Fatherhood group for some discussion that was really fascinating. And the topic is basically what happened to all the kids in the big cities. And he went through the data. He went through the research. But then he also was just kind of having an opinion on it cities are making

it more and more difficult, right? Big cities, urban areas, urban-centered places for families to be there.

And we're actually at some level structuring these places to push them out. And he then goes to

say that really, at the end of it, cities are becoming nothing more than a place or a headquarters

for rich, white, young men and women who just kind of brunch all day and do their kind of hustle

and workism, which workism is a phrase that he uses, by the way, in another article on kind of how

that's our new religion in America, this idolatry of work. But a fascinating article.

I thought it was really, really good. Jeremy, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. I think my

favorite line was that last line. I don't know if you remember the line, but it was so good. I still

remember it. Where I think he says that, you know, he's like, we've gutted the maternity,

because he basically said he's moving into this condo in Washington, D.C. that used to be a hospital. And he said, what an apt metaphor for our culture, where the metaphorically speaking, we've gutted the maternity ward and put up a condo. And I was like, man, that's so true. Kind of this from family to individual. But yeah, what did you think? Yeah, I wanted to, and obviously a lot of you guys, some of you may live in big mega cities, maybe a lot of you

don't.

But I think one of the things that I want to sort of signal what I feel like Derek Thompson

is saying as well, and is that it's important to know if you are watching any element

of culture, movies, TV shows, Instagram, hang out your coffee shop, and there are no children.

You may be living in a singles theme park. Yeah. And that's kind of like he uses this sort of

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