Ep 142 - The Healthcare Monster w/ Gabriel Winant

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Sean KB and AP Andy

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4.2 • 970 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2021

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Sean and Jamie are joined by Gabe Winant (@gabrielwinant), historian and author of "The Next Shift: The Fall of Industry and the Rise of Health Care in Rust Belt America," to discuss the composition of the US working class yesterday and today.

Gabe's excellent historical work has given us a picture of the remarkable changes seen in Pittsburgh, once an emblematic blue collar town and one now dominated by hospitals and pink collar work. But, as we see in the interview, Pittsburgh is merely a microcosm of an epochal shift from one regime of accumulation to another; from the post-war "Golden Age," to the (decaying) neoliberal order of today. Together we pick apart the contradictions within both as we look at real examples of class struggle (alongside the grand dialectic of capital) and wonder what the future might look like for the American working class as a whole.

Buy "The Next Shift" https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674238091

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0:00.0	All right, hello and welcome to the antiipata where at rest is best. I'm Jamie Peck.
0:16.3	I'm Sean K.B. And we're here today with an awesome guest. His name is Gabriel Winant. He is an assistant
0:24.4	assistant professor of history at the University of Chicago
0:27.7	as well as the author of the next shift
0:30.6	the fall of industry and the rise of health care in Rust Belt America out now on
0:35.1	Harvard University Press. Welcome to the show, Gabe. How you doing? I'm good.
0:39.2	Thanks for having me. Yeah, huge pleasure. What'd you do?
0:44.0	I know this podcast is going to come out a little bit later, but we just had a very beautiful
0:49.9	loyalty day over the weekend.
0:52.4	So what did you guys do for loyalty day over the weekend. So what did you guys do for loyalty day?
0:55.6	We had a beautiful loyalty day March
0:57.3	here in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago.
1:01.2	It started in, well, it started at Juulosco Supermarket supermarket and then we went to the University of Chicago Police Department and you know
1:09.4	Express your loyalty to that. Express to the loyalty outside there for a while.
1:13.4	Sure sure.
1:14.0	Sure.
1:15.0	And marched by the University Administration Building and then to
1:19.0	there's a kind of community center called the experimental station where there's a union recognition
1:25.8	campaign going on right now. So we wound up there.
1:28.6	Very cool.
1:30.0	Heck yeah, showing your loyalty to the labor movement.
1:34.6	I showed my loyalty. I pledged allegiance to the flag. I got my Blue Lives Matter flag out. I walked around
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