Ep 141 - The Long March Through The Applications w/ Edward Ongweso Jr.

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

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4.2 • 970 Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Jamie and Sean are joined by Edward Ongweso Jr. (@bigblackjacobin), staff writer at Motherboard and co-host of This Machine Kills (@machinekillspod), for a discussion of all things tech. Rather than freeing us from drudgery, technology has been used by capitalists to make things worse for the vast majority of humanity. How did we get here? How can workers fight back? What does it mean to be a 21st century Luddite? How does this relate to police abolition? Plus: Edward's answer to Andy's Twitter poll about turning off the internet.

Outro music: Chumbawumba - the Triumph of General Ludd

Check out Edward's reporting at Motherboard: https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/edward-ongweso-jr

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0:00.0	Cool.
0:07.0	All right.
0:08.0	And we're rolling.
0:10.0	I am fairly confident that this is not going to fuck up.
0:14.9	We have a backup, but it's important to have a backup.
0:17.4	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:19.6	Ah, technology folks, if I right?
0:22.1	Yeah. That's why I'm'm a lot I love technology. The
0:26.0	solution to and the cause of all of our problems. Like nothing ever just works the
0:31.0	way it's supposed to. Yeah, that'll be no fun.
0:34.0	You know, you gotta have like a little mini quest
0:36.0	when you use anything.
0:38.0	Well, you know, this is like a good way to open the episode.
0:42.0	Technology doesn't work great for any of us.
0:44.4	It certainly doesn't work great for podcasters or for workers,
0:47.8	but it sure as hell works well for the capitalist oligarchs.
0:51.3	Bezos never has problems with technology.
0:54.0	He implements what he wants, when he wants, damn the consequences.
0:58.0	It's a beautiful thing, you know.
1:01.0	That's why capitalism, that's why I'm always saying capitalism is the best system for oligarchs right?
1:04.3	Totally man. I mean if I was an oligarch I would love it. Like you couldn't think of a better system to
1:09.8	design if you were the owner of a giant capitalist firm or even if you owned a lot of stocks and assets. I mean, best system in the world, baby.
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