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Everybody, welcome back to Marriage Therapy Radio.

I'm Zach.

I'm here with Laura.

You know, I want to say that we truly are grateful that you take the time to listen to the podcast, no matter where you are, whether you're in your car, maybe you're at

soccer practice or standing up in your kitchen, who knows, the fact that you would take even just a few minutes to listen to whatever it is that we have to say means a lot.

And toward that end, it's the middle of November.

I think it's Monday, maybe it's Tuesday.

Gosh, this last week's been really long.

I feel like I haven't had any choice but to take it sort of one day of the time.

But the real issue is that we recorded this last week.

And I actually don't remember what we're talking about.

I know that Laura was pretty excited about a topic.

And I think we had a hearty debate and we might even have disagreed quite a bit in this one, which is always fun.

So I'm just going to assume that as always, it's a cool conversation. Stick around.

You told Jason what? Yeah, I told Jason. I sent Jason. Listeners, Jason is our producer. And I send

them in text today because if, I mean, you think we get off the rails what you what you hear is off the

rails you should hear all of the outtakes there's a lot of like Zach clearing his throat um

there's a lot of cursing that I do that ends up getting like taken out and then there's quite a bit

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