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Michael Covel's Trend Following

Ep. 1360: Greyserman Redux with Love with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

Michael Covel

Investing, Business

4.6730 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Please enjoy my monologue Greyserman Redux with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio. This episode may also include great outside guests from my archive.

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I’m MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I’m proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

To start? I’d like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

Can’t get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

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Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Reaching back into my archive today, a blast from the past, one of Larry Heights Associates,

0:07.2

who I met early on in my journey, Alex Gracerman. A very interesting guy, a very interesting

0:14.4

background, and a trend following mind. I hope you enjoy.

0:19.4

I hope you enjoy.

0:38.6

Today in the show I have Alex Gracerman. He holds the position of chief scientist at ISAM,

0:45.2

a specialist managed futures fund manager, 25 years of experience in the hedge fund industry.

0:49.4

Alex initially began working with Mint Investment Management.

0:54.1

The first managed futures advisor to manage more than a billion dollars meant started by Larry

0:56.7

Height. Larry Height of Market Wizards fame. Larry Height, somebody I consider a friend, a mentor,

1:04.5

somebody who has taught me a lot. Great conversation with Alex today. And please check out his new book, Trend Following with Managed Futures.

1:14.2

It is the definitive academic treatise on trend following.

1:20.5

Alex brings some great color today.

1:23.1

I hope you enjoy this conversation.

1:24.4

Thank you. hope you enjoy this conversation.

1:34.9

Are you still in God knows where country?

1:36.3

Oh, I love it.

1:36.8

I love it.

1:38.5

You know, well, let's just leave it like that.

1:41.5

I think that keeps the audience guessing God knows where country.

1:46.2

We'll circle back on the back end, maybe if we got some extra time and talk about that.

1:49.2

Hey, let me jump right in to the heart of the matter.

1:54.6

When I had you and Larry on in the spring, I think we were right in the middle of the weekly parade of 26-year-old Financial Times reporters writing about trend following is dead.

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