Welcome to Do This, Not That, the podcast for marketers.

You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately.

You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share

tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos

that is our every day. I'm Jay Schwettleson. Let's do this, not that.

We are here for Do This, Not That, and we have an incredible guest.

I know sometimes I say that, but I actually feel that way this time, which is terrible for every other guests I've had.

But we have Oz Rashid here.

Who's Oz?

Oz is the CEO of a company called

MSH, which stands for Make Success Happen or possibly it may mean something else. Os will

explain that. But they are a leader, a worldwide leader in hiring and talent solutions. The reason I ask Oz to come on is that whether

you are a small business, a big business, you are looking to add team members. There are ways to do it.

There are ways not to do it. There are hurdles that we have to overcome. And there is nobody that I know

on planet Earth that knows more about finding talent and really locking

that in than Oz.

So Oz, I want to welcome you to do this, not that.

Hey, Jay.

I appreciate it.

What an introduction.

I've really enjoyed the time you came on my pod a couple months ago.

I think there's a lot of synergy between the way we look at things.

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