Whether it's a full-on face-to-face feud or a quiet rivalry that only flares up in occasional bright, brief bursts, you know the story is going to be juicy.

So on the award-winning podcast, Beef, with me, Bridget Todd, we dive deep into history's bitterest pairings, like legendary director Werner Herzog and its problematic muse actor Klaus Kinski, or the nation

states of Sweden and Denmark. And we try to unpack what makes these individual conflicts

so captivating. Why are they important? And how do so many of them end up changing the world?

Be sure to listen to Beef with Bridget Todd wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Bradley Trainer.

And I'm Don McLean.

We have a podcast called Blinded by the Item.

A Blind Item is gossip about a celebrity with her name left out.

It's a guessing game.

And you can play along.

The item might be like,

This A-List star carries a Birkenbag worth more than the average person's house

to the gym to work out.

Pretty sure that's J-Lo.

And P.S., the person behind all of this is Chris Jenner.

LLC.

We drop a new episode every weekday so the fun never ends.

Blinded by the Item.

Listen wherever you get podcasts.

And watch us on the Blinded By the Item YouTube channel.

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