And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

The name Pete Buttigieg is hard to say and was largely unknown before his recent race

for Democratic National Committee Chair in which the South Bend mayor raised a lot of

eyebrows with his compelling candidacy.

Just 35, he already has an extraordinary story and great insights into the politics of

our country and particularly that part of the country that was so instrumental in electing

Donald Trump in the last election.

We sat down and talked about all of this with Mayor Pete on a recent visit to the Institute

of Politics.

Mayor Pete of South Bend.

Now everybody calls you Mayor Pete for a reason, which is nobody quite knows how to pronounce

your last name.

So if nothing else comes from this podcast, let it be that everyone within the sound

of our range of our voices will know how to pronounce your name.

Yeah, Buttigieg.

Buttigieg.

That's it.

I think rolls off the tongue.

Like Buddha and Gidge.

Yeah, exactly.

I knew that, but I wanted you to hear.

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