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The James Altucher Show

Ep. 127 - James Hong: Hot or Not

The James Altucher Show

James Altucher

Education, Business

4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2015

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

James Hong is one of the founders of the infamous site Hot or Not. What started out as an innocent experiment turned into a cultural phenomenon and lucrative business. Hot or Not was a website that allowed users to upload their photos to the site so that other users could rate them as "hot" or "not." Soon after, a dating site was added, and a new form of internet speed dating began. Hot or Not was part of the dawn of social media, preceding Youtube, Facebook, and sites like Tinder. James shares his observations of human nature and how the site proved age-old truths about attraction. People who submitted the photos were, for the most part, confident enough to know the site was all in good fun. Others took it too seriously. In the long run, "hotter" people found the site and stayed based on the reaction to their photos. James and his partner built the site as a side project that started out with an invite to friends - and grew to 30 thousand visitors. Online source photos were used to begin the concept of the site. James estimates about 100 photos were used. Within 7 hours, the site was populated with real users wanting to be rated. The instant success was a little overwhelming for James and his partner. Machines and internet service were much more expensive in the early 2000s. So much so, the site was almost shut down because the equipment couldn't keep up with the site! They moved Hot or Not to GeoCities, and changed the future of the site. They made a deal with Ophoto as an affiliate. The final step was a business deal with Rack Space, which hosted the site for an exchange of publicity. Companies called, wanting to buy this new business, but James and his partner wanted to see where it was going. James says that the first year was all hard work. The dating service was the first attempt at monetizing the site. The dating site was linked to Hot or Not, and to go on with the site required one participant to be a paid member. James compares the success of Hot or Not to the early days of reality shows. Hot or Not has been credited with creating 5 to 10 marriages a day. Hot or Not was eventually sold in February of 2008. With the financial crash of 2008, James and his partner decided liquidizing the company was the wisest move. James has always considered the future of business to be entrepreneur-focused rather than capital-focused. Hot or Not is a prime example of how the internet can make this possible. James's suggestion to the newcomers in this business would simply be: "Just do it." Concepts don't have to be complex to work. If the interface works, then don't complicate it. Resources and Links: You can reach out to James directly on Twitter @JHong. To learn more about Cakey, James' new app that helps parents find kid-friendly video playlists, head over to cakeyvillage.com.  ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

0:06.4

This is the James Altitor show on the Stansbury Radio Network.

0:12.4

So I'm really excited to have James Han on the podcast.

0:22.3

You might not know James specifically, but he started the infamous site, hotornot.com,

0:29.0

along with his friend Jim Young.

0:30.9

I just want to provide a little intro before fully welcoming James, but hot or not was like

0:38.0

the dream site to build.

0:40.6

I would imagine.

0:42.2

Basically, imagine setting up a website and then weeks later, you have millions of users,

0:48.1

minimal costs and it turns into a business.

0:51.1

That's kind of the dream.

0:52.4

James, welcome to the show.

0:54.1

Thank you.

0:55.1

Now, what was it like?

0:56.4

You set up a site and then I'll describe the site and say, you set up a site and did

1:01.0

you realize you were going to have two million visitors within weeks?

1:04.6

No, it was mainly, we put it up really as a joke.

1:08.8

It was just for fun.

1:10.6

It was just kind of an experiment.

1:13.5

My friend and I, we were hopeful, but we really didn't expect it to happen.

1:17.7

I don't know if you remember this, but back then, this whole concept of viral marketing

1:21.7

was kind of new.

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