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Welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Kate Spencer and I'm Dory Sheffrier and today we are doing something a little different

because we want to both offer our support to our black listeners and we also want to use

our platform to discuss tangible ways we're committing in the long term to anti-racism

and supporting black organizations and businesses. I wanted to share a quote that I read last

week that really resonated with me. It's by a senior Renee Taylor and it says or she says self-care

that cannot be bothered with justice is just privilege. And that really hit a chord for me.

And you know, we have been thinking like hopefully all of you about how we can work harder

at our own anti-racism both in our own lives and on our podcasting platform and how we can really

hold space for black people without centering ourselves. And over the, this has been an ongoing

conversation for us since starting this podcast but most definitely especially in the last week,

we have really been reflecting on the work we haven't done and the work we need to do and how we're

going to rectify that. So today we want to share some actions we're taking, some places we have

donated to companies and people we are following and supporting and then we are going to be

replaying our interview from November 2019 with Ijoma Aluho who's the author of So You Want to Talk

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