And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

If you're thinking of putting together a dinner party, don't invite Bill Crystal and Donald

Trump, because one of them probably won't come.

Bill has been a leading conservative commentator for several decades.

He was the chief of staff to then vice president Dan Quail, and has a long history in the

conservative movement, but was one of the sharpest critics of Donald Trump throughout the campaign

and to this day.

He's also a member of the Board of the Institute of Politics and came by to participate in

a panel in the future of the Republican Party and the Trump era, and to sit down with

me.

Bill Crystal, welcome.

Not only an eminent conservative voice in our country, but also a member of the Board

of the Institute of Politics, which is equally important to me.

By far the most important thing.

It's an honor to be here and to get to be here with you.

So you kind of come from New York City sort of intellectual royalty.

You grew up in an interesting environment.

And I grew up in New York at about the same time.

So your dad's name in particular was one that I was familiar with.

Talk about your family a little and the way you grew up.

So I grew up in New York and my father was writer and publisher and editor, my mother

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