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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1233 | John Luke Admits He Has ‘Tons’ of Enemies & the Bible Confirms Witches & Ghosts

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Tread Lively

Religion, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.923.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Christian Huff awkwardly opens up a little too much about life at home, but John Luke quickly tops it by declaring he has not just one adversary, but tons of low-level foes, sparking a dramatic debate about what it means to trust God with the fate of our enemies. The guys move into the unsettling world of Saul’s downfall, the “ghostwife” of Endor, and the moment Scripture proves the dead can indeed speak. David’s restraint, Saul’s unraveling, and the haunting echo of Samuel’s return all point to the deeper truth about spiritual warfare, leadership, jealousy, and trusting God’s timing. In this episode: Genesis 1; Genesis 38; Exodus 7–14; 1 Samuel 13; 1 Samuel 15; 1 Samuel 16; 1 Samuel 17; 1 Samuel 18; 1 Samuel 22; 1 Samuel 24, verse 10; 1 Samuel 26; 1 Samuel 28; 1 Samuel 31; 2 Samuel 1; 2 Samuel 2; Hebrews 12, verse 1 Today's conversation is about Lesson 5 of The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King taught by Hillsdale Professor Justin Jackson. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ More about The David Story: Encounter the beauty of the Bible. The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King explores the lives of Israel's first two kings—Saul and David—to discover the Bible’s profound lessons about fatherhood, the nature of sin, and the consequences of sin on both a family and a nation. While David suffers great tragedies due to his own transgressions, he models a path to redemption through repentance. Join Professor Justin Jackson in a careful reading of First and Second Samuel to gain a deeper understanding of the meaning and beauty of this story that is not only fundamental to the Christian and Jewish faiths, but also a literary masterpiece. Join us today in this pursuit of a deeper understanding of the Bible in “The David Story.” Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-05:50 Potty training mayhem 05:51-09:15 The melancholy of King Saul 09:16-14:44 The cultural impact of foreskins? 14:45-20:02 David respects his would-be murderer 20:03-28:05 Saul’s sin leads to slaughter 28:06-34:30 A message from beyond the grave 34:31-41:06 The big plot twist no one saw coming 41:07-49:41 Trusting God with your enemies — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I am unashamed. What about you?

0:06.8

Oh, welcome.

0:08.2

Welcome. That was a different three, two, one, Beth. You got a little, you got some little, some jazz in yours.

0:15.0

I like that. That's really good. There was like a little, Maddie's out of town.

0:19.4

And so we've had a, actually never heard nobody. We've had a team effort here, Zach, for the unashamed for Hillsdale podcast that we do weekly, which we're excited about doing. Aren't we? Yeah, we're excited. There was a little bit of a delay there because I'm coming in from Black Mountain. But yeah, and we're taking the course. You can take it free with us. We're in the story of David. And so if you want to sign up, I've got to Unashamed for Hillsdale.com, and you can sign up for the course with us, which we highly recommend because the way we're, we're just talking about what we're what we're listening to

0:55.1

on dr jackson's lecture so if you don't listen to the course with us you may not know what we're

1:00.0

talking about it makes a lot more sense if you join us but you know those of you that

1:04.6

listen to the regular unashamed podcast you know that we have something called the cold open

1:10.2

which dad refused to call

1:13.1

it that because he said that sounded like a downer, so he called it the hot take, but whatever.

1:17.6

But we always do a little something up front about what's going on in our lives. Of course,

1:20.8

with Jay's on the podcast, it's typically what's going on in his life. And then Zach and

1:25.0

how react and respond to that. But I just thought you guys got young kids, you know, any young kids story? I mean, kids do funny things, right? And hilarious things. Is there anything y'all have to get us started with what they're cold open? Yeah, I have a quick. So Haven, we, uh, she's, she's actually almost fully potty trained now. She's been the past two weeks.

1:45.2

She's just been.

1:59.9

And she's the middle one. She's the middle one, yeah. So she's about two and a half. And she's walking around the house and her panties and doing all the stuff. And today, she should go to the bathroom. She said she had a good poop. So she went pooping the potty and it was great and everything. so I wiped her. Is everybody cheer and like...

2:01.4

Yeah, well, she's...

2:02.2

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:02.6

She's very excited about it.

2:03.9

So she went to the bathroom, I wiped her and then, uh, I flush the toilet and she was not, she likes, I forget that she likes to flush the toilet. She was so mad at me. She was like, I'm mad at you. And she, I'm so mad. And she was like doing, doing her fist down and, like, making an angry face. And I was like, I'm sorry. You know, I'll put a piece of toilet paper in there and you can flush it. So then she gets back on the toilet and she's like red face. Like, she's trying to go to the bathroom again. Just because she wants to flush the toilet. So she's like redfish and she's like grunting. And then

2:34.9

there's like the tiniest little turd comes out. And then I wipe her again and she flushes the toilet

2:40.1

and she's so happy. But it was just a funny moment of, of, she somehow forces herself to have another

2:47.1

little turd that she can shoot at herself. Well, it's funny about that story is that, except for the being mad part, I did the exact same thing two weeks ago, myself. It was just, I had to go, I was so excited, and then I just thought, oh, maybe just a little more. Did Lisa flush the toilet for you? No, I get the complaints and give the complaints at my house because my grandkids won't flush.

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