You're listening to the Adventure Sports podcast. Thanks for adventuring with us as we discover what incredible athletes and outdoor enthusiasts are doing all over the world. Now here's your host, Kurt Linville.

Have you ever had the dream that you're running over hills and jumping off the backside,

and as you jump over the tops of the hills and tumble down,

eventually you jump far enough that you don't hit the ground and you start flying?

I've had that dream my entire life, and today we find out how that dream can be a reality. We have

Emmy Carvalo with us. And Emmy has been hang gliding and paragliding now for 11 years. And he is

coming to regale us with all the amazing stories of what it's like to fly under a kite.

That's the way I'm going to say it.

Welcome to the program, Emmy.

Hi Curtis, thank you for having me.

Yeah, you bet. You do both hang gliding and paragliding, and you just mentioned to me before I hit record, why you do both.

Maybe share with the listeners why you do both and what the differences are.

Thank you for the question.

For someone from outside, they are two different, but somewhat similar ways of flying,

and one could imagine that they feel the same, but they feel

completely different. Maybe something closer and it's more easy to understand is probably

the difference between snowboarding and skiing, right? Of course they are both ways of going down

the mountain with snow, but they feel completely different. One of them you can go much faster,

but the other one you can really have a very different way of controlling the way where you are going.

And here it's a bit the same. With a paraglider, you have a feeling of more calmness, I will say,

because it's the slowest form of aviation, except for a hot air balloon,

perhaps. But other than that, is the slowest way that you can be while flying. So you can really

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