Ep 114 – Bloody Brigham’s Mormon Theocracy with Will Bagley pt.2

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

Ldschurch, Christianity, Latterdaysaints, Religion, Ldschurchhistory, Mormons, Religion & Spirituality, Mormonhistory, Bookofmormon, Mormonism, Josephsmith, Mormon

4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2018

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Will Bagley joins us to share in his specialty, Bloody Brigham Young. We discuss a brief overview of how the Saints made their way from Nauvoo to the Great Basin in Mexico territory and the fun begins. Brigham Young realized Joseph Smith’s dreams of a Mormon theocracy and truly took it above and beyond anything Jo could have dreamt up. Be sure to buy Bagley’s book, Blood of the Prophets, which spawned this entire conversation.

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0:00.0	I am Ryan McKnight. I'm Kara Santa Maria. I am Christopher Smith. Hi, I'm Andrew Torres. This is Naked Mormonism. The Serial Mormon History Podcast. Today we have part two of the interview with Will Bagley. He is going to walk us through Brigham Young, a bit of the
0:22.0	succession crisis and how Brigham Young was able to seize power, as well as a little bit of the
0:27.1	Mountain Meadows Massacre history and the fallout in the wake of the public outcry in
0:33.2	response to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. So we're just going to dive right into the middle of the conversation, beginning with Will talking about the evolving power dynamic with Brigham Young.
0:45.7	And it is a great story.
0:50.3	One thing I'm certain about the Carthage jail is that Smith had been in
0:58.8	like this, and he expected to get out of this one. For all the drama of, I go like a lamb to the slaughter,
1:06.8	he didn't expect to die. He was banking on once again being able to weasel out of a tight situation.
1:17.5	Yep, make like a fox once more, yep.
1:20.0	And get away.
1:21.5	But actions have consequences.
1:26.2	And that's life.
1:29.5	Life's full of surprises, even the ones that end your life.
1:35.2	But what happens is Smith had always been vague about who was going to succeed in. He seems to have definitely
1:49.7	wanted his namesake, Joseph Smith III, to be his successor. And one of the, one of the fun, you know, history is fun.
2:04.3	Going out and researching is just joyful.
2:08.7	And when I was researching blood of the prophets, I went back to the community of Christ
2:15.8	archives in the independence.
2:18.6	And I went through a lot of the manuscript material
2:22.6	of Joseph Smith's Third.
2:24.7	And one of his constant
2:28.5	refrains was he would go to old Mormons
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