Do I then need to devote my life to proving to everybody the Bigfoot exists?

It seems like once people have this encounter, their life becomes about that.

Why can't you just be like, oh, that's cool, I actually saw Bigfoot?

No, they're like, no, everybody has to believe.

And I don't get that obsession that happens after us.

Because people are calling you crazy, Carl.

Episode 1,120, we have Carl Mandrioli and Ben McAuliffe, backpacking and blisters.

You're listening to the Adventure Sports Podcast.

We talk with adventurers from around the globe to bring you the inspiration and motivation

you need to get started in the outdoors or to keep you moving if you're already there.

Now here's your host, Kurt Lindville.

Hey friends, welcome to the Adventure Sports Podcast.

I'm laughing right now because the two gentlemen, may I call you gentlemen? Is that all right?

The two gentlemen I have with me today are Ben and Carl from Backpacking and Blisters, another podcast, and if you don't know it, you should go listen to it.

Yes. Okay, I'm being really candid. They just said, we don't know what we're going to talk about. What are we going to do? And I said, I'm pressing record. So you're jumping into the, we don't know what we're going to talk about podcast. Perfect. Just how the pros do it. Apparently we're doing it wrong by having outlines and structure, Carl.

Well, it depends.

Or no, we don't have to take notes.

I'm pretty loosey-goosey, and it gets me in trouble sometimes, but I know you guys can do this.

I'm going to throw this out there.

I think it's great to let my listeners and viewers know about other podcasts because I trust them to respect the person

who shared and to come back. But the reality is, I think that if you take care of your

listeners, then they appreciate that allegiance and they don't forget you. And I understand

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