States across America move toward reopening. Democrats reveal big plans for America's reshaping,

and Joe Biden tries to talk to a recording. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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All righty. So the big discussion that seems to be happening nationwide about how to reopen,

it is now moving state to state. And a lot of blue states are moving toward reopening.

So all the talk about how if you want to reopen, it's just because you don't care about saving human life. It turns out that was all a bunch of bull crap,

and that everybody is going to have to reopen at some point or other, and everybody is going to do so in some fashion or other. Some places are going to lock down longer, some places are going to lock down shorter. And then we're going to have a fair number of case studies as to who is right and who is wrong. One thing is becoming eminently clear, and that is the economy

simply cannot stay shut down this way. There is just no way for the economy. number of case studies as to who was right and who is wrong. One thing is becoming eminently clear,

and that is the economy simply cannot stay shut down this way. There is just no way for the

economy to stay shut down. And the reason that the economy cannot stay shut down this way is

because in the end, as President Trump originally suggested, the fact is that we will end up

losing more years of life if the economy is shut down for a prolonged period of time than we

would through coronavirus itself. That, by the way, comes courtesy of a study that's being quoted

in the week over at the UK. They have an article there called Why the Economic Crash Could Cost

More Lives Than Coronavirus. The idea there being, of course, that as people lose their lives due to health

conditions brought on by poverty, as people kill themselves, as people engage in opioid overdoses,

that all of these things factored in means that people are losing significant years of their

lives. And so when you actually measure lives lost, it is not just enough to measure lives

lost. I've said this before, and people have gotten very upset with me. The reality is that when you make actuarial tables and when you decide how to set policy, there are a couple of stats that are necessary. One is how many lives on just a pure, simple level, are lost. But the second is how many quality adjusted life years are lost, meaning that if you have one policy that kills a certain number of 30-year-olds and one policy that is likely to raise the risk for a certain number of 81-year-olds, you have to take into account the difference in quality-adjusted life years for people who are 30 and people who are 81. In fact, if somebody dies at 30, they have lost more life years than somebody who dies at 81. That does not mean that we should not mitigate risk for people who are 81. It does mean that when you make a risk calculation

about generalized policy, you do have to take that into account. Well, how bad is this thing

getting? The Federal Reserve Bank on Thursday reported that nearly 40% of those of a household

income below $40,000 reported a job loss in March.

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