Why are the fourth wave feminists much, much worse in their arguments and much more vociferous

and bitter and ugly than people were 100 years ago and they had something legitimate to say about

this? I say this in the madness of crowds. Why does Tarnahisi Coates come across as far more

bitter and negative about America than James Baldwin? In this current shutdown crisis, the issues that dominated the headlines the past few years

now seem trivial in comparison.

Intersectionality, reusable plastic bags, gender pronouns, culture wars obsessed with inequality,

sowing division among us as the issues become more and more niche in what was up until three

months ago, the richest, most prosperous

time to be alive in America. Douglas Murray willingly and enthusiastically dances over

these landmines as a British political author and journalist. In his new book, The Madness

of Crowds, Gender, Race, and Identity, Douglas exposes the grotesque nature of finding meaning

in one's identity. He explores the ways social media, news, universities, and so on drive the wedge and sell social justice.

Which leads him to ask his readers to look around and ask themselves,

is this the society they want to live in?

Douglas has been a contributor to The Spectator for 20 years, an associate editor for the last eight.

He writes regularly for outlets including

the Wall Street Journal, The Sunday Times, National Review, and more. And his previous book,

The Strange Death of Europe, Immigration, Identity, and Islam, spent 20 weeks on the Sunday

Times bestseller list. In our conversation, we discussed that book's analysis of the

full-on destruction of Europe. If everyone is a nationalist during a pandemic,

what conservatives in the UK have taken for granted,

and what the European perception of President Trump has been missing.

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