And now, America's number one show on pop culture and politics.

This is the Michael Medved Show.

And another great day in this greatest nation on God's Green Earth,

and always a great day when we're able to welcome to the show,

Bill Crystal,

who is best known perhaps still as the founder and longtime editor of the Weekly Standard.

He is the director of Defending Democracy Together, an editor-at-large and Morning Shots co-author with the bulwark and he is the host of

Conversations with bill crystal which you can find at conversations with bill crystal.org

and he is like everybody else watching the debate and the preparations for the debate. And we were talking

before on the air bill about the idea that apparently the Biden people say they're preparing

for two different versions of Trump and they're not sure which one to expect, either the

ranting, angry, unhinged Donald Trump, which we've all seen at his rallies recently,

maybe even he'll be discussing fear of sharks.

But there's that one, but there's also a more controlled version of Trump,

that they're afraid of showing up. So the challenge that apparently some of the people

who are preparing Biden say that they're facing is what could Biden do, and I want to ask you this question, to try to

trigger the more unhinged, angry, vengeful retribution response from the ex-president?

Hi, Michael. I mean, I don't know, honestly, and I actually think that's not the right way to think about the debate.

I think actually what's more important than what Trump we get is how Biden looks.

I think it's more upside for Biden in this debate.

If he looks fluid and, you know, up on things and gives strong answers in a crisp way.

Also, downside, obviously, if he looks old and frail and doesn't quite, you know, finish his thoughts and so forth.

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