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What year did trout bum come out?

Mid 80s, maybe 86.

I didn't discover it till a little bit later than that.

But I've been wanting to talk to you since I did because there's a thing like,

like that book, which was your first book, right?

No, because you had a, you had a, the fly fish in the high countries before that.

Yeah.

But trout bum fell into, when I say our lap,

I mean, the laps of me, my brothers, and like our main,

hunting and fishing friends that we grew up with.

And it fell into our lap at this time in life that we'll always stick in my head because it was,

we're kind of coming out of, coming out of college, being mid-college.

And there was just this tremendous amount of anxiety that was unspoken at the time.

But there was sort of like a lot, there's just like this palpable anxiety in the air about

what we were all going to, what was going to happen to us all?

Yeah.

So you're like, not like now, right?

No, I just feel like I know better.

I kind of like, now I have anxiety about my kids, right?

But at the time, I just, yeah, I know I kind of could picture it all now.

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