Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Under Serv, the podcast for the rest of the tech industry.

I'm your host Andrew Jelina.

With me in studio today is Jesse McSweeny,

program manager and Scrummaster at IQVA.

Jesse, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Andrew, thank you for having me. So I understand you first to get into the industry weren't say your typical CS guy or someone banging out code and a Commodore Vic 20 at 10 years old.

I understand maybe three words that you just said.

No, I was a political science major at Westfield State College,

and I said college, because when I was there there it was a college. Funny story I went

back to Westfield State five or six years later to just see the campus

he visit the bookstore or whatever and all the Westfield State College paraphernalia

in gear was 50% off.

I felt kind of odd, but I said, you know what, I like a good deal like anyone else.

I got the 50% off sweatshirt and all that stuff.

So yeah, a political science major, I like to say I majored in a hobby. You wouldn't be able to, I'm going to date myself here, open up the newspaper and say, oh, where are the political science jobs? But it was just something that I was drawn to. I grew up in a family that ran for political

office. Something that I enjoyed. I wish I probably took a couple of more business classes, but no, I never had any ambition of getting into the IT space when I graduated back in 99.

So you did end up working at the Massachusetts Division of Insurance.

Folks have all heard about insurance investment. Massachusetts Division of Insurance of Insurance.

Folks have all heard about insurance investigators

that look into disability cases or arson or stuff like that,

but you are the opposite, looking at what's

going on with the agents, right? Yeah, because the natural progression from graduating with a. the a good segue from one to the other. But yeah, 23 year old kid, I got a job working for the state. My

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