Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Under Serve, the podcast for the rest of the tech industry.

I'm your host Andrew

Jalina. I am lucky to be joined today by Tim Callahan, VP of technology

at Crunchtime. Good morning. Good to be here. Thank you very much for coming out on this snowy Wednesday.

So Tim, a question I often open with folks is how did you kind of get started,

get excited about programming and technology way back in the day.

It was the mid-1970s, and my father was an officer at a small savings and loan in New Jersey,

and I clearly remember one Saturday morning him dragging my brother and

I into the office and he had a dumb terminal on his desk hooked up to, I'm assuming some kind of

mini computer or maybe a mainframe in the back end and he told us

about these games that he could play at work on lunch and the game he brought up

was football and I remember my brother and I entering our names and it was myself against my brother Mark and the game was super simple obviously written in basic offense you would pick pass or run or special teams

You could throw a long pass or run, or special teams.

You could throw a long pass or a short pass.

And on defense, you had to look away when one person would enter what they were doing

so that you couldn't cheat.

And to this day, I remember my brother through a long pass and I was defending against a run.

It must have been a third down in short.

And he threw a 76 yard pass and it was nothing more than the computer saying he threw a 76

yard pass which went for a touchdown and I was hooked at that point I just could

not believe we would we would play stratomatic football at the time, which seemed exactly the same thing with dice,

but the fact that the dice were gone and the board was gone and it was all words and imagination.

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