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I'm interested, like, George Lucas was a guy that was sort of disenfranchised with the way the movie studios worked.

Yeah.

And so set up his own company and did his own thing.

Yeah.

And I guess in a way, you know, with the hundreds, you could have gone and worked, you know, there's hundreds of clothing companies in LA that you could have worked for. Like, he sort of created something that ended up becoming even more work for him than he ever thought it would be.

And it became this massive thing.

And in a way, and I'm not saying this with 100,

but for him, it became the thing that he kind of was rallying against.

He became like a big time studio.

And I always find, which is another thing altogether,

is that he started as a rebel, filmmaker. Yeah. Yeah. And I always find, which is another thing altogether, is that he started as a rebel filmmaker. Yeah. And then, like, he relied on technology. Yeah. Whereas he started as an Ewok. Yeah. Ended up as like an ATS, you know, and the film suffered for it. But do you sort of relate to that, like, that you've started something, which is sort of meant to rebel? Yeah. And then it's like, oh, this is getting big. How do we? Yeah. How do we not become that company that we're like, let's not be like them? Yeah. It's a recurring story. I think in any successful business, especially if someone, especially for an independent, usually independent

start off responding or reacting to what came before, like the dominant hegemony around

them, whether it's an industry or whether it's what their parents told them that was right

or a boss told them and this is how you do it. And there's just like a certain type of person.

I guess I'm one of them where you just want something different.

It just never really, yeah, I don't know.

It just wasn't really ever for you, you know, and you just want to create your own way and your own path.

Like my wife always jokes around with me because, like, I wouldn't be able to work

for anybody else. I'm such a difficult person. Even my, uh, with Ben, my partner, it's like,

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