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Welcome to another Cheryl Ackison podcast,

live on the road.

I'm again with my producer Daniel Steinberger and my photographer

extraordinary Brian Barr. We are along the southwest border between, well actually in Arizona looking at Mexico.

And we're doing some border stories that we're shooting for full measure,

season five coming up this fall.

And I thought it would be interesting to hear from the guys and

talk about what we've seen since we've been here. One of my purposes was to try to

figure out without an agenda going in what has changed in the last few years that I've been making

border visits and shooting border stories? Is it getting tighter, looser? What's happening?

Is there a wall? Is there not a wall? So let me hand it to Daniel first and see what he thinks. This is his first time in this region.

Thanks, Cheryl, and I guess we're a repeat guest, exciting.

Yeah, it's the first time down in this area and a couple of impressions.

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