Dudes, duets, welcome back to the anxious truth. This is, this is the episode that comes after

105, so math tells me that this is episode 106. Welcome back for episode 106.

Glad you hear.

What you are about to hear was recorded about a week ago.

This is a conversation that took about 25 minutes

between me and my friend Monique Coven. Monique has been on the

podcast multiple times, you guys have probably heard her before, and she was nice to stuff,

it's nice enough to spend some time with me last week. Monique is a trauma and recovery coach out of Canada, a lovely human being and always generous with her time and her experience.

So I'm always grateful to have her involved.

We discussed a topic that I think needs

to be discussed a little bit more.

So we took about 25 minutes or so

and we talked about it.

That's what you're about to hear.

We addressed the problem that some people have, especially if they're coming from a background that includes trauma or abuse, where no matter what they do, they have a hard time with their anxiety recovery because no matter what they do

they really can't seem to find that sense of safety and security they always feel

unsafe they always feel vulnerable so Monique talked about that with me so we sort of acknowledged that

wrinkle that many people have in their recovery. Some of us take for granted the

fact that we feel safe and secure. Some people just don't feel safe and secure

for various reasons.

So we talked about that situation, but more importantly, we talked about the ways that you actively

go about starting to build that.

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