Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Underserve, the podcast for the rest of the tech industry.

I'm your host Andrew

Jelina. This week we are fortunate to be joined by Mark Carberry who I've known

and been friends with gosh over 20 years in the industry.

You know Andrew, one of us is getting old, I hope it's not me.

Well, getting old stinks, but it beats the alternative.

And there you go.

So Mark, if you could, give me kind of a brief history. You know I've seen you've had roles from

managing teams VP, CEO, CIO, tell me a bit about the the ride. It's been a long

crazy trip and let me first start by saying something to be said for experience

like I say between Andrew and I we've done a lot of different things, had some great experiences

and made a lot of mistakes on the way and hopefully we can share some things that'll help you folks out in

what you're trying to accomplish.

There's no better lesson in life than sometimes, you know, learning things the hard way.

Sound on my career many, many years ago, fortunate enough, right out of college to land a job as a systems analyst and just fell in love with it.

I went into an engineering school in the very first weeks, one of the very first things that we were told was,

you have to have a computer science background.

We don't offer a curriculum, but coming out of a good engineering school

I said, this is your basic tool set.

And one of the things that I constantly tell folks on teams

is there's a basic tool set that I'm going to advocate and help you folks get.

And that changes over the years year by year.

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