Hey guys it's Drew the episode you're about to hear was recorded December 18th 2018 and it starts in an awkward kind of fashion

Let me explain Jackie had agreed to come on video with me to talk about her anxiety success story

but we had all kinds of technical problems for a few minutes. So what you hear in the

very beginning is us finally getting our act together so I apologize for the bit

of an awkward start but trust me

hang around and listen it's well worth it thank you

there we go I hear Jackie here she yay! Actually worked. She made it. I have my microphone off or something. So I had to do some kind of

of. Technology isn't good.

We're better with it.

Oh, you did just fine.

So for those of you who hung around and like stuck in there with us for the last few minutes,

I appreciate that.

So today we're going to talk for a little while and Jackie, thank you very much for being willing to do this. Like hugely, hugely helpful. So people always want to know, they ask all the time, like, has anybody ever really done this?

Is it really possible to, you know, get better and get past all this?

And I could talk myself, you know, until I'm blue in the face that yes I actually did it

but it would be nice to hear from other people and Jackie has is one of those people I am like I'm

super proud of her for being willing to come forward and do this.

And just a quick disclaimer before we get into it,

I didn't fix Jackie.

I have nothing to do with it.

Jackie fixed herself.

Like everybody will fix themselves.

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