Enshittification / Cory Doctorow

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🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Cory Doctorow returns to This Is Hell! to discuss his new book from Verso, "Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What To Do About It." "Rotten History" from Renaldo Migaldi and "The Moment of Truth" with Jeff Dorchen follow the interview. Check out Cory's book here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3341-enshittification Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell Please rate and review This Is Hell! wherever you get your podcasts. It really helps the show ascend the algorithm to reach new listeners.

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0:00.0	20 years to see New York reflected on subway train 20 more be 44 head back to
0:15.3	Tam Bay I killed a man there in spite when he died I took his place 18 major colors to the kisses that
0:27.6	you gave cost exchange and cause of blame when I stood out in the rain you get a man there
0:33.6	and I cried for the rain master hurt found your face by the week you're alive and it hurts
0:43.3	Christmas of our hair This is hell.
1:10.4	This is Hell.
1:29.8	And we have a little bit of breaking news, and this is probably breaking news to most of the local media outlets here in Chicago, as well as the Department of Homeland Security, possibly agents of ICE, who are currently right now in the Rogers Park neighborhood with ice using tear gas in Chicago neighborhoods wherever that is Albany Park Rogers Park
1:38.0	down in the southwest southeast side of Chicago this is a really good time to remind
1:43.3	everyone who is listening tear This is a really good time to remind everyone who is listening.
1:46.5	tear gas is a euphemism for a chemical weapon that is internationally banned in wartime.
1:56.8	You cannot use, according to international law, you cannot use tear gas in wartime, yet the Trump administration is using it against its own citizens.
2:11.4	Doing our best to understand what capitalism expects us to not understand since 1996, this is hell. 20 months ago, we did something we rarely
2:23.6	do. We discussed an article that appeared in the Financial Times of all places. However, it's not
2:29.5	often that you see an essay in the pink paper with a headline like the one we talked about back in February of
2:35.3	24 before President Trump began his second nightmarish administration.
2:40.4	That piece was titled,
2:43.2	Andshittification is coming for absolutely everything.
2:46.5	The term describes the slow decay of online platforms such as Facebook,
2:50.6	but what if we've entered the
2:52.7	Enchidocene? It was adopted from a Marshall McLuhan lecture that was delivered at the Embassy of
2:59.3	Canada in Berlin. In fact, insurification, which was coined by today's returning guest, was selected
3:04.3	as the 2023 Word of the Year by the American Dialect Society.
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