From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Bob Garfield.

And I'm Brooke Gladstone. Thomas Jefferson once wrote,

The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest.

Yeah, maybe back when art was mostly directed at depicting actual things.

Now art, or at least the art of government, is more like abstract expressionism.

The pictures that politicians paint are intended to mean whatever you, the voter,

wants them to mean.

In 2017, honesty is apparently passe.

Except, perhaps, in congressional hearings.

And you are deposed FBI director James Comey talking about the manner of your firing.

The administration then chose to defame me, and more importantly, the FBI,

by saying that the organization was in disarray, that it was poorly led,

that the workforce had lost confidence in its leader.

Those were lies, plain and simple.

Or testifying about your awkward private sit downs with Donald Trump.

I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting, and so I thought

it really important to document.

That combination of things I'd never experienced before, but it led me to believe I got to

write it down, and it got to write it down in a very detailed way.

I can definitively say the president's not a liar.

Principal Deputy White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders.

It's frankly insulting that that question would be asked.

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