Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the

intention of real truth for you, and then let it go. For me our soul is like it's

unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves. When people

stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming we turn to

ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts

positive things. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is the Goop podcast, bringing together

thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists,

doctors, healers and seekers, here to start conversations because simply asking

questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

Today is no exception. I'll let Elise fill you in on her extraordinary guest.

All right, over to Elise. Byron Katie is a spiritual teacher and the author of many amazing

books including Loving What Is and the Mind at Home With Itself. Decades ago, after what was a

miraculous awakening involving a cockroach, she developed a method of self-inquiry simply called

the work. The work is both radical and simple. Essentially it suggests that it's our thoughts

about what happened that caused us suffering and not the actual event. The event happened,

it's in the past, yet we continue to obsess and struggle with it even though it's not part

of our current reality. The work revolves around four questions. Is it true? Can you absolutely

know that it's true? How do you react? What happens when you believe that thought? Who would you be

without that thought? And then you do turn around. In our chat, Katie explains why these questions

and the turn around are so essential and then she takes me through the work, which is so helpful.

I do want to note that Katie's method is triggering for some people as she asks people to dig into

and sit with reality of what can be painful and traumatic memories and experiences. She is not

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