Hi, I'm Dr Caroline Leaf and welcome to my podcast Cleaning Up the Mental Mess.

There is a journey beyond divorce.

And today I talk with Karen McMahon, who's a certified life coach and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce,

about her unique approach to the challenges and complexities of breakup and divorce.

We talk about how to examine what behaviors and beliefs and trauma have been brought to the relationship

that didn't serve it.

We talk about how she guides people through the foreign land of divorce in a way that builds confidence and possibility.

We also talk about her own journey of personal transformation after her divorce and what are some common challenges

that individuals may face during this journey and how to manage them. This is a great

and useful fantastic talk so let's dive in.

Karen, it's so great to talk to you. Now this is such a relevant topic to talk about divorce and it's also kind of one of those

topics that people you know don't want you talk about as much as they

they showed and there's so much involved and you're really aren't expert not only you had your own personal experience

but you help people with getting through the whole issue of the divorce.

So there's so many topics which you can cover but you're the expert and I just want you to just start by giving my

audience a little bit of a background about who you are, what you did and why you do what you do.

Thank you so much.

Thank you for inviting me on.

I love your show.

You know, I think like so many out of my pain came my purpose and so I was in I was I was not young I was 34 when I met my my

husband and it was only a couple of years in when it was just really tumultuous and confusing.

I went through a three and a half year, very high conflict divorce, you know, attorneys, police,

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