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All of us have times when we feel like we're not as close to our spouse as we'd

like to be. There's some distance there. In that situation, what can you do

to rekindle the connection? If you're asking that question, we have some ideas

for you today. I'm John Fuller and we're returning to a conversation that

Jim Daley and I had with Greg and Aaron Smalley. They lead our marriage

department here at the ministry. Now, they shared some lessons that they've

learned during the early stages of the COVID pandemic. And let's begin this part

of the conversation after Jim gave a rather sobering statistic from psychology

today, which reported that 63% of married couples feel lonely.

Fill that in a little bit. You're both counseling couples and talking to

people. What in addition to, you know, somebody feeling isolated in decision

making, which is kind of the example you're talking about, fretting over, you

know, how to take care of people. What are some other contributors to loneliness

that you see in marriages today? I would say one challenge that we face as a

nation is the pace that we keep. The level of busyness that we keep that

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