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Thanks. It's Thursday, February 8th, 2024, and welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover Institution

broadcast examining social, economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.

I'm Bill Whalen, I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow.

I'll be our moderator today, joined by our full compliment of our good fellows, as we jokingly

refer to them.

I would include the historian Neil Ferguson, the economist John Cochran, and the geostrategist,

former presidential national security advisor, Lieutenant General, H.R. McMaster, Neil,

John, and H.R. are all Hoover Institution senior fellows. Guys, it's good to see you today, and sadly, we all have very heavy hearts today. That's because the Hoover Institution has suffered a terrible loss. I'd like to spend a moment on this before we get on with the show. As I mentioned last week, the Hoover Institution had a real jolt, and that was the sudden, very unexpected loss of Karen Weiss Mulder,

who, along with her husband James, died tragically in an automobile accident last Friday.

Karen was the Hoover Institution's chief operating officer and chief financial officer.

She did more, though, than merely managed the money and keep the books.

If you were trying to get a project off the ground, trying to get someone hired. You'd go to Karen, and if your idea made sense and she had a great head for these things,

she'd come up with the solution for you.

Karen loved the Hoover Institution.

She loved to find creative ways to advance our programs and allow fellows like Neil and John in HR to carry on with their research

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