Welcome to the Our Hen House interview.

This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Mary Ann Sullivan.

And we're so pleased today to welcome Lindsay Sophis, who is head of programs at Rise for Animals,

which is a national animal rights organization working to end animal experimentation through exposure, advocacy, and public mobilization. Welcome to our henhouse, Lindsay. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Jasmine and Marion, for having me. I am so excited to be here. We are, too. There's so much to talk about. And what a moment. What a moment.

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This is actually, this episode is our monthly flock Friday episode. So once a month, we invite

our flock members to join us live for an interview. So we have a bunch of people here, many of whom

are Lindsay's fan club, as we just learned.

And it's very exciting because there is a lot going on in the world of animal experimentation, I would say, in very positive ways.

So let's get to that interview now.

Lindsay, why don't you start by just telling people a little bit about Rise for Animals and

its history and we'll really unpack its approach to animal experimentation over the next,

you know, many minutes. Absolutely. Thanks, Jasmine. You started us off beautifully. So yes,

Rise for Animals is a national

animal rights nonprofit organization. We believe that humans should not experiment on animals, period.

We're not here to make animal experimentation more humane. We're here to end the practice. And we are the

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