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Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

Billie Eilish Was Right, the Meat Industry Is Panicking, and a Calf Saw a Butterfly | Rising Anxieties

Our Hen House: Vegan & Animal Rights Movement | Stories from the Frontlines of Animal Liberation

Jasmin Singer and Mariann Sullivan

Documentary, Education, News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Self-improvement

4.9579 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

The latest episode of Rising Anxieties covers a week of predictable chaos in the animal agriculture world. Billie Eilish said what many of us were thinking — eating meat is inherently wrong — and the left proceeded to embarrass itself with a barrage of bad-faith counterarguments. Meanwhile, the federal government is finally going after Big Beef and Big Egg for antitrust…

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Roising Anxieties.

0:07.3

Hi, Marianne Sullivan.

0:09.2

This is where we talk about my personal area of expertise, which is anxiety.

0:14.3

And don't forget, we're podcasts for our YouTube, subscribe, hit like, wherever you listen.

0:20.2

And I was going to start off by talking about

0:22.3

this Kenny Torella article, which I think a lot of people, I mean, this has been all over the

0:26.8

place. Well, the topic, maybe not Kenny's article in particular, but the topic of Billy

0:31.6

Eilish and God, don't you just lover. And the backlash, the name of this article, which was in box, the backlash to Billy Eilich's

0:42.4

vegan comments explains a lot about the American left and everyone else.

0:48.1

Why our American left is so reluctant to confront the meat industry?

0:52.4

And clearly because of the same reasons that everybody else is.

0:55.1

I actually am working on a substack that incorporates this,

0:58.2

but it's quite more about how they used to give reasons for one of they,

1:03.3

they wanted to eat meat like it was good for you and whatever.

1:07.0

And I kind of kind of give excuses.

1:08.9

I actually think there might be something in that, not just in this instance, but in this particular instance, you probably know that Billy Eilish, the singer, put on, on, I think it was in an interview, a video interview that she was asked,

1:28.0

what's one hill you would die on?

1:29.9

And she said,

1:30.4

y'all not going to like me for this one.

1:31.7

Eating meat is inherently wrong.

1:34.1

Sorry, you can eat meat, go for it.

1:35.9

You can love animals, but you can't do both.

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