Encore: Leopold & Loeb Part II

Killer Psyche

Wondery | Treefort Media

True Crime, Exhibit C

4.6 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In the second half of this two-part episode, former FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong continues to explore the case of Richard Loeb and Nathan Leopold, two young men who murdered 14-year-old Bobby Franks. 19-year-old Nathan and 18-year-old Richard sought to commit what they called ""the perfect murder."", In this episode, Candice focuses not only on the the murderers' psyche, but also on the role psychiatry played in their trial. Killer Psyche releases new episodes weekly. You can listen to Killer Psyche one week early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery+ in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

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0:00.0	Hey, Killer Psychey fans, curious what makes a killer tip?
0:04.3	Wondery Plus gets you early access, exclusive episodes with even deeper dives, and zero ads.
0:11.9	Start your free trial of Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
0:19.0	A listener note.
0:25.7	This episode contains graphic depictions of violence and sexual assault.
0:27.7	Please be advised.
0:43.7	In the last episode, we began our exploration into the psyches of the infamous Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb.
0:50.7	Both men were very privileged, well-educated, and extremely smart.
0:58.9	However, they were not clever enough to get away with murder. On May 21st, 1924,
1:07.8	18-year-old Richard and 19-year-old Nathan kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and killed 14-year-old Bobby Franks, Richard's second cousin.
1:11.8	The murder was described as a thrill kill.
1:15.9	They had no reason behind it except to prove that they could commit the perfect murder.
1:23.2	In this episode, we will continue to dive into the murderers' past and examine how the trial
1:30.1	and the coverage of it is still talked about today. If you have not listened to Part 1,
1:36.4	please do that first.
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2:01.8	What if I told you that the crime of the century is happening right now?
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