Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Muse, the Brain Sensing Headband that helps you meditate and sleep and meditation studio, the five-star app.

I'm Patricia Carpus.

Today's guest is Judson Brewer, a psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and author of his latest book, Unwinding Anxiety.

New science shows how to break the cycles of worry and fear to heal your mind. He's also the director of research and innovation

at Brown University's Mindfulness Center and an associate professor of psychiatry at the medical

school. Judson has combined his expertise in mindfulness,

habit change, and behavioral change, and neuroscience to create some very practical tools to help

unwind anxiety. I've known Judson for several years and was excited to read his latest book.

Today we talk about ways to uncover what triggers our anxiety and how to identify what he

calls our anxiety habits and how to use mindfulness and reward-based learning to break the

anxiety and panic cycles.

Judson shares a lot of practical wisdom here, so let's get to it. Now, here's Judson.

Judson, it's so great to have you back on Untangle. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me.

Do you remember when you were here before? I think it was maybe two, maybe three years ago.

Yes, it was BC before COVID-19.

Such a long time ago.

I have no concept of time anymore.

But I love this new book.

I powered through it over the last week,

as much as you can power through a book on anxiety and

habit change, trying to understand it and apply things to yourself. But I'm curious, what

inspired you to write this particular book? Well, many things. One, I've had my own issues

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