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I'm Patricia Carpice.

Today's guest is Roshi Joan Halifax, a Buddhist teacher, Zen priest, medical anthropologist, author, and pioneer in the field of end-of-life care.

She's the founder of Upaya Institute and Zen Center in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Rushi Jones' most recent book is called Standing at the Edge, Finding Freedom Where Fear and Courage

meet.

It was such an honor to interview Joan Halifax.

Knowing her, meeting her has been on my personal bucket list for as long as I can remember.

She has cultivated so much wisdom in her life from years and years of study, work, social activism, humanitarian work, and meditating.

In this amazing book, she talks about the courage to face things just as they are, the edge

states that epitomize our strength of character and that also open us up to our greatest potential.

We all go over the edge at times in

our lives, but we can cultivate the capacity to, as she says, correct course, to stop and take

account of our internal life and to awaken to the new insights and growth that come from these

defining moments.

The most important thing we can do now to face the complexities of the world we live in,

she says practice intentional kindness.

We need to connect with one another more, listen to one another more,

spend more time in relationship with one another.

Needless to say,

she has had an enormous impact in her lifetime and continues. Now, here's the amazing Rashi, Joan Halifax.

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