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I'm Patricia Carpus.

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Today's guest is Chris Winter.

Chris is a neurologist, sleep specialist, and author of the book The Sleep Solution,

Why Your Sleep is Broken and How to Fix It.

He explains why we're a culture of poor sleepers and how we got that way

and includes five things we can do right now to improve

our sleep. Spoiler alert, an attitude change might be the best tactic of all. Now, here's Chris.

Chris, it's great to have you on Untangle today. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you so much,

I appreciate it.

I want to start by asking you this question. As a neurologist, how did you originally become

so interested in sleep and the problems that we all have with sleep? The short answer is it was all

very accidental, but there's just something kind of intoxicating about sleep that's very easy to have fun with.

Well, it's funny.

I mean, it's good news, bad news, right?

Because people love to talk about sleep because we have so many challenges with it.

Correct.

It's simple.

Like the spleen.

The spleen's a piece of cake.

Yeah, right?

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