You're going to see. I'm in a city. nothing going on time. We feel this it right.

Or maybe you just get you can stay in time. Michael Alice here

here let that be your welcome for the next hour maybe we could just get drunk and stay inside is the perfect

lyric to open up this episode because we have Jake Sabawbini here from

Empire Spirits Project Jin.

And there's a long backstory of how you came to be here and I'll tell it to the fans in the most meandering Grandpa Simpson way possible.

Grandpa Simpson's perfect.

Yeah, so the Kaiser, no.

So I was going to a party.

I'm not a drinker at a friend's house.

And I went to a liquor store by my house,

and I said, what's the most unusual thing you have here because as I'm sure you agree

when you go to an event and you bring like a weird bottle it's a discussion point

people want to try it it's like an activity it's something fun to you know what I mean and it's a great

conversation piece and he pointed to your smoke gin now I'm a gin guy I love

gin I don't love gin but it's my drink of choice.

And I brought it to he and he said it pairs well with Dr pepper.

I'm also a big Andy Warhol fan so anything that combines like fancy and like

trash I love I'm all over it. I'm like great. So I got the gin I got the

Dr Pepper everyone tried the gin neat no one knew how to describe it. So to have a

liquor that is innovative in this day and age to me was like, wow, that's amazing.

Then we tried it with the Dr. Pepper.

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