Welcome to the Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast.

My name is Rich Velotis.

I'm the lead pastor of New Life Fellowship Church here in Queens, New York City.

And I'm here with Pete Skazaro.

Pete is the founder of New Life, as well as the founder of emotionally healthy spirituality.

And today we're talking about emotionally healthy hiring, emotionally healthy hiring, a massive issue for churches,

whether they're small, whether they're large, lots of application across the board.

And so Pete, you've outlined five aspects, five C's of emotionally healthy hiring that we're going to cover. But before we go into

these specific Cs here, I want to talk about emotionally unhealthy hiring. Have you had some

emotionally unhealthy hiring experience? What did that look like? It's funny, we're talking,

Jerry and I were talking driving to church today and talking

about how long, how many years and years of constantly making the same mistakes in the same

genre, but maybe a different angle of it.

And it wasn't really, it probably was over the past a 20-year mark that it really started to make some good hires.

I have a lot of examples of unhealthy hiring, yes.

What are a couple of just things that you would describe emotionally unhealthy hiring?

You know, I think, if I could think of some, a couple characteristics.

One, being in a rush because I had something that needed to be filled, and I didn't have time to fill it, so I got to get someone in there very quickly.

I would say in 100% of the cases that failed.

And I did it a lot.

Kept thinking, it would happen, I'd overlook things.

I would project a greater competence to the person that they did not have.

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