Hi everyone, I'm Hillary Kerr, the co-founder and chief cocktail officer of Who Up Where,

and this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly inspiring careers.

We're talking about their work journeys, what they've learned from the process of setting

aside their doubts or fears, and what happens when they embark on their second life.

Today, I'm speaking with beauty influencer and model Amira de Spain.

Perhaps best known for her makeup focus get ready with me TikTok videos,

which have received over 85 million views.

Amira creates viral content about beauty trends and tips,

as well as her life in New York City for her 1.2 million followers.

She also recently became the first black trans model to work with Victoria's Secret,

and has appeared in campaigns for NARS cosmetics, as well as on covers, like galore.

But, before she was modeling and making her own beauty content, Amira was actually working

at Paper Magazine, first as an intern, and eventually she worked her way up to becoming the

publication's beauty director. It was there that she launched a Snapchat show called

Natural, which helped Amira find her voice as a creator and ultimately take the leap to strike

out on her own. She is beyond inspiring, and I can't wait for you to hear from her today.

Now, on second life, it's Amira de Spain.

All right, Amira, are you ready to go? I'm ready to go, let's do it.

So, on this podcast, we like to start at the beginning.

What did you study in school, and much more importantly, what did you think you were going to be

when you grew up? When I was a kid, I actually wanted to be a dentist for a while. Really?

I have no idea why, because I'm terrified of the dentist, but I like thought that it was so cool.

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